
Mercedes-Benz Metris
Bernhardt: That's exactly the point. If you look at the van market in the United States, it's very simply structured. There are large vans, midsize vans and small vans. Large vans dominate the van market: 80 percent of the van market is large vans. Then you have the small vans, which you just mentioned; that's probably 40- or 50,000 units a year.
In the midsize niche, it's pretty empty right now. There's one van currently offered that's categorized as a midsize van that's going away - the Ram CV Trademaster - which is more or less a converted minivan. So this is the perfect field for us to attack and bring a new product in which, to your point, we call it the right size concept because it offers so much more cargo and payload capacity than the smaller vans. However, it still fits in any standard size garage at home, or you can bring it job sites where you can drive into parking decks.
Larry: Looking at the broad array of passenger cars that Mercedes-Benz offers in the United States, it would seem that it is getting harder to find profitable niches to fill. But on the van side of the market, at least here in the U.S., that's certainly not the case. It seems obvious to bring to America more of what's offered in the rest of the world. And expand your market share.
Bernhardt: Exactly right. You know these decisions do not take three months and then you bring out the van; there are development lead times involved with that. So a couple years ago, we targeted the midsize van segment thinking that it's time for the new Vito, which is what the Metris is called in Europe. It's replaced in Europe with a new generation; this is the right time to bring this vehicle to the United States. So that brings us to a broadening of the product portfolio, which, as you mentioned, Europe offers different van configurations. They also offer, for example, the Citan (pronouced see-ton), which is a small van. We don't think it's right for the U.S. Market, but who knows what's happening in the future?
Larry: What's unique about the Metris is that it's rear-wheel drive. But you do offer this vehicle with all-wheel drive and a manual transmission in Europe, but not initially in the United States. Obviously, these are features you could bring over to the United States fairly quickly if the market demands it.
Bernhardt: Of course. This is the advantage of having a global parts shelf, where we can look into what's available. But we also have to look at what makes sense and what the demand is in the United States. So when we configured the Metris for the United States. So when we configured the Metris for the United States, we started with building a van, which would easy for our dealers to order and stock, because 80 percent of the U.S. market is built for stock and then the customers come and pick it from the lot. They're not custom-ordered like they are in Europe, where the customer waits until their van comes in. So we needed to simplify the line-up. We picked the right length for the U.S. market, the right wheelbase for the U.S. market and we picked rear-wheel drive for the U.S. market because it offers the best set-up; the best driving characteristics and also has advantages for towing.
Larry: Have fleet buyers and those who you're targeting to buy the vehicle been resistant to the idea of the four-wheel drive 4Matic option on the Metris?
Bernhardt: Currently in Europe we offer a front-wheel drive, a rear-wheel drive and a 4Matic option. For the United States, we start with rear-wheel drive only, but if there is enough demand to create a business case for 4Matic for the United States, then that's something that we are definitely interested in.
Larry: Would it take a long time to bring over?
Bernhardt: No. It's adapted already for the platform in Europe. However, it's mated to a diesel engine there, so the engineering capacity would have to go into 4Matic for that platform. So it's something that would probably take a year or so to develop.
Larry: Now, you've announced that you're building a plant in Charleston, S.C. Talk about that a little bit.
Bernhardt: Being in the U.S. aarket, we are really excited to have Daimler's commitment to further expand and show commitment for the van business in the United States, but also shows that we believe the van market in the U.S. Is a growing market, and that we are serious about the van business in the United States, and that we are here to stay. We are investing $500 million in South Carolina outside Charleston to build an all-new facility from the ground up to produce the next generation Sprinter here in the United States. And that involves a body-in-white shop, and a whole paint shop. So Sprinters will not just be born to run, they will also be born in the U.S.A.
Larry: That should make ordering a lot easier.
Bernhardt: It will cut down the ordering lewd time dramatically because, as you said, it will built here in the United States. And it will be faster to our dealers and there's one more advantage. We avoid the import tax, which is known as the chicken tax. This is something that is a logistical challenge for everybody who wants to bring a commercial van to the United States from Europe; it's a 25 percent import tax. Obviously if you produce in the United States, you don't have that.
Larry: Will you be building Sprinters for other markets from the South Carolina plant?
Bernhardt: No, it's just U.S. production at this point; it's for the United States.
Larry: What's the plant's capacity?
Bernhardt: You know, we haven't published that number, but today were selling 26,000 Sprinters a year. So if you look at the cure optimistically, it's going to be a minimum of 26,000 Sprinters.
Larry: Spoken like a true auto executive.
Bernhardt: I am well trained. (Laughs)
Larry: Coming into this from the car side of the business, is there anything that surprised you about the van side of the company?
Bernhardt: As you know, I have worked in the U.S. for a long time already, but I have always spent my time on the passenger car side. To answer your question, what I learned most on the commercial side, is the customer is totally different. We have a high share of fleet customers, which you don't have on the passenger car side. So it's a very important part of our business. Almost 50 percent of our business is fleet business. So we work closely with fleet companies to create that business.
So, for example, for the Metris, to make sure they have early access and exposure to the car. We have already invited them a year before launch to our factory, where we gave them early access to the Metris; to look at it and crawl through it and measure it and see if it's good for their businesses. And we did that not just for fleet customers, but also on the passenger van for limousine services and hotel shuttles. On the commercial van, we gave access to upfitters so that they are ready at market launch to have shelving systems, custom made, tailor made upfitters, refrigerating systems, stuff like that. So that's an important side of the business that we don't have for the cars.
Larry: I imagine dealer reaction must be strong.
Bernhardt: Dealers can't wait to get it. They love the commercial franchise to begin with, a strong subset of our passenger car dealers have in addition commercial franchises. We have a lot of hand-raisers who still want it.
Larry: What's holding you back?
Bernhardt: We have to be careful with who we award our franchise to. There are certain criteria that they have to fulfill. The commercial franchise comes with certain requirements. Some of them are brick and mortar; the facility has to be able to repair: service door lifts, lifts, heights have to be right. But also, on the human side, we require a service advisor dedicated to the van business, also we require a sales person dedicated to the van business, and some technicians to repair vans only. So requirements come with it. But for the dealers, it's just an additional business and they like it. It's very profitable.
Larry: I am sure. Bernie, thank you for your time.
Bernhardt: You're welcome Larry.
Interview by Larry Printz, Editor-In-Chief, Automotive at Dealer.com